An Open Letter to the "Jewish Voice for Peace" organization / DR.Rivka Shpak Lissak

The JVP is too busy to answer the many emails they get. The only way to make them listen to me is this.

About Jewish Voice for Peace (from their web site)

Through grassroots organizing, education, advocacy, and media, Jewish Voice for Peace works to achieve a lasting peace that recognizes the rights of both Israelis and Palestinians for security and self-determination.

Jewish Voice for Peace is the only national Jewish organization that provides a voice for Jews and allies who believe that peace in the Middle East will be achieved through justice and full equality for both Palestinians and Israelis. With offices in New York and California, 100,000 online activists, chapters across the country and an Advisory Board comprised of numerous prominent Jewish thinkers and artists, JVP supports nonviolent efforts here and in Israel-Palestine to end Israel’s Occupation, expand human and civil rights, and implement a US policy based on international law and democracy.

• Conducts global campaigns to defend and free Israeli and Palestinian human rights activists

• Fights McCarthyite censorship of debate and misuses of the charge of anti-Semitism, especially in the Jewish community

• Supports the growth of the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement through divestment from companies that profit from the occupation

• Works in coalition with others including Arab, Muslim, Palestinian and Christian groups to fight bigotry and end the occupation

• Facilitates Congressional outreach regarding policy in the region

• Supports alternative Jewish rituals that include Palestinian narratives
This is what the JVP says about its goals

The other side of the story – Is Israel the only pactor responsible for the lack of Peace?

I suspect the JVP ignores the other side's real intentions.

Read what the other side, (the PA) says to its people in the media, the press, the educational system. Read the reports of the PMW

Also: did you notice that the Palestinians have rejected 6 opportunities to have a state?

Whenever the Labor party was in power they could make peace:

In 1936/7- the Peel commission proposed a 2 state solution. They rejected the proposal. The Zionist movement accepted

In 1947 - UN resolution to form 2 states: the Jews accepted - the Arabs and Palestinians rejected and attacked the new state, Israel calling to "throw the Jews into the sea."

Between 1948 and 1967 the Palestinians were under Arab rule in Gaza and the Western Bank. Why they did not form a state and started a terror activity against Israeli civilians.

In 1967 - after Israel was attacked and conquered Gaza and the Western Bank, Prime Minister Levi Eskol proposed "land for peace." He was rejected by the Hartum 3 Nos.

In Oslo, 1993, Arafat promised to cancel the Palestinian Platform calling to destroy Israel. He did not. He also did not stop terror.

In 2000, the Clinton - Barak proposal was rejected by Arafat who started another Intifada. He could solve the settlement issue but rejected the proposal.

In 2008/9, Prime Minister Ehud Ulmert put a very generous proposal before Abu Mazen. Abu Mazen himself said so in an interview to the Washington Post. But he did not say YES to Ulmert.

Does this say something to the JVP?

The Israeli Right Wing is not the only partner opposed to a peace solution. The Palestinians also are not interested:


First, the Hamas is opposed to end the state of war to eliminate Israel. Without their consent Abu Mazen cannot make Peace. The Hamas won the last elections, and Abu Mazen has postponed the coming elections because he was not sure of his victory over the Hamas. The PA survives because the Israeli army prevents the Hamas from taking over the Western Bank, as it did in Gaza.

Second, Abu Mazen and the Fathah have never given up the demand of the "right of return," to Israel, which is a troian horse to turn the Jews into a minority and put an end to the Jewish state. Read the publications of Israeli- Arab leaders and other organizations and you will understand what is "the vision" of the Palestinians about the future of Israel.

Third, Abu Mazen and the PA refuse to recognize Israel as the national state of the Jewish people. Said Arikat, a member of the Palestinian talks stuff said, the Jews are not a nation, but a religion and you don't give a religion a state. Nabil Shaat, another PA leader, said the Palestinians will never recognize Israel as a Jewish state because Israel has an Arab – Palestinian minority and is not, therefore, a nation- state. If they recognize Israel as a Jewish state they will have to give up the "right of return."
(Most nation- states in the world have minorities)

Fourth, the settlements issue should be discussed and solved in direct talks. President Obama raised the issue of freezing, and gave Abu Mazen the best excuse to refuse to talk. He was given a bad advice from "experts" who do not really understand the Middle East.

In short, the Palestinian Authority cannot and does not want to make peace with Israel because peace means to compromise on the "right of return" issue and give up the dream to put an end to the Jewish state. They wish to get a state from the UN, THUS AVOIDING a peace agreement with Israel and GIVING UP THEIR DRAEM.

When you blame only Israel - you do not help peace. You help the Palestinians pretend the only problem is ISRAEL.

Israel is a democracy and only its citizens have the right to decide their future and the future of their children and grandchildren.

If the members of the JVP wish to influence Israel's policy, they have to become Israelis. It is against the principles of democracy for non-citizens try to interfere in Israel's politics.

I say so, although I am totally opposed to Netaniahu's policy and to the settlement movement.


I didnt bother raideng through both the posts, but i think some claims he makes thee (which are very mainsteam in israeli political thinking) are on the verge of hypocrisy, and full of bull***for example :Does this presence ‘harm’ the Palestinians? Probably the opposite if you count things like infant mortality and standard of living — compare them to Arabs living in nearby Egypt, Jordan and Syria — but I will grant that they are harmed psychically by the frustration of their desire to have a state (we’ll leave aside the racist nature of the state that they wantOf course, it must be very pleasant for the palestinians to pass through dozens of checkpoints on daily basis, so that a bunch of settlers could feel safe pasing there as well. And of course, having a Palestinian state is racist, while having a Jewish state isnt.Keep in mind that the Arabs initiated the 1967 war and there was no national claimant to the territories more rightful than Israel. Who would it be? The Ottoman Empire? Britain? Jordan? No ‘Palestinian’ entity had ever existed.Of course he forgets the entity Israel also never existed before 1948, but why should this bother him? Many entities didnt exist in the past, btw; theere was no czech republic, slovakia, beilorussa, ukraine, etc. The first two were dominated for hunderds of years by the Germans (or Austrians), the later by Russians. So what? By Mr Rosenthals logic, Prague should just become another city in the German Reich, ruled by the duke of Bohemia.

Palestinian Poll results:2 states only temporary

The poll result is the Palestinians are still planning one Palestinian state to replace the Jewisg state.

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